Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War sees Thanos bringing the hurt as he vies to collect all six Infinity Stones in order to achieve godlike power, but Earth’s mightiest heroes aren’t exactly in a great position to stop him. The events of Captain America: Civil War left the team fractured, which has had a huge impact on two founding Avengers: Captain America and Black Widow.

During a visit to the Atlanta set of Infinity War, IGN and a small group of press talked to actors Chris Evans and Scarlett Johansson about what their characters have been up to in-between movies, and let’s just say the picture they painted isn’t pretty.

“They’re more hardened,” Johansson said, describing how the two heroes have teamed up and gone underground so they can still help those who need it, despite the fact that they’re now doing it without backup or resources. “When you’re fighting for something that you know is important but is not being really recognized or supported by a larger organization or even like, society as a whole … it takes a certain toll, and you can get feelings about it in a way.”

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